Robots are pretty cool

Started by rachel, August 16, 2017, 12:14:15 AM

Diabolizer

Quote from: here cums the fuck truck on December 24, 2017, 07:34:38 PM
man i fuckin wish we'd move to a post scarcity CULTURE, and we already have the TECHNOLOGY to do so, but as long as there are greedy assholes, we won't have this.

The greedy asshole factor has been a problem since the beginning of history and depending on who you talk to, since the dawn of humankind.  But maybe it begins when life began and greedy assholes aren't a product of poor moral choices, but of evolution.  That said, I believe that a percentage of human beings will always be assholes and that the real technological challenge is how do we deal with them.
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rachel

Quote from: Diabolizer on June 01, 2018, 04:04:35 AM
Quote from: here cums the fuck truck on December 24, 2017, 07:34:38 PM
man i fuckin wish we'd move to a post scarcity CULTURE, and we already have the TECHNOLOGY to do so, but as long as there are greedy assholes, we won't have this.

The greedy asshole factor has been a problem since the beginning of history and depending on who you talk to, since the dawn of humankind.  But maybe it begins when life began and greedy assholes aren't a product of poor moral choices, but of evolution.  That said, I believe that a percentage of human beings will always be assholes and that the real technological challenge is how do we deal with them.

If we had the technology to grow our own food, collect water, and provide shelter for everybody on the planet sustainably and in abundance, why does it matter if there are greedy assholes?
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Diabolizer

Quote from: rachel on June 01, 2018, 06:53:21 PM
Quote from: Diabolizer on June 01, 2018, 04:04:35 AM
Quote from: here cums the fuck truck on December 24, 2017, 07:34:38 PM
man i fuckin wish we'd move to a post scarcity CULTURE, and we already have the TECHNOLOGY to do so, but as long as there are greedy assholes, we won't have this.

The greedy asshole factor has been a problem since the beginning of history and depending on who you talk to, since the dawn of humankind.  But maybe it begins when life began and greedy assholes aren't a product of poor moral choices, but of evolution.  That said, I believe that a percentage of human beings will always be assholes and that the real technological challenge is how do we deal with them.

If we had the technology to grow our own food, collect water, and provide shelter for everybody on the planet sustainably and in abundance, why does it matter if there are greedy assholes?

Well, I think we've had all that for hundreds if not thousands of years.  But assholes, driven by the anomalous moral dynamics of their aberrant biology leverage the surplus towards their own ends, to the detriment to everyone else. 

In fact, there are perfectly non-asshole scenarios where a minority can gain economic leverage over the majority (I can do some research on the matter if anyone wants, I'm just not awake enough to give the argument a fair hearing).

Though, to be fair, you've suggested some technological solutions (AI/blockchain/etc) where the surplus could be managed to prevent conflict and domination.
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rachel

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here cums the fuck truck

shit i just watched all of that it owns
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rachel

These robots taught themselves how to cheat

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRPiprOaC3HsCf5Tuum8bRfzYUiKLRqJmbOoC-32JorNdfyTiRRsR7Ea5eWtvsWzuxo8bjOxCG84dAg/pubhtml?fbclid=IwAR0-At10G6saRwYQvcx7Nrejh0BMQAWsjwItmTYcZx--vy0UyPtDmQRnlSw

QuoteA robotic arm trained to slide a block to a target position on a table achieves the goal by moving the table itself.

QuoteAgent pauses the game indefinitely to avoid losing

QuoteGenetic algorithms for image classification evolves timing attack to infer image labels based on hard drive storage location
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Joof

So reinforcement learning and generic algorithms come up with all kind of wonderful bullshit like this and comes up with hilariously novel garbage.

NASA evolved some antenna once...

rachel

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here cums the fuck truck

Quote from: rachel on November 08, 2018, 06:28:44 PM
These robots taught themselves how to cheat

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRPiprOaC3HsCf5Tuum8bRfzYUiKLRqJmbOoC-32JorNdfyTiRRsR7Ea5eWtvsWzuxo8bjOxCG84dAg/pubhtml?fbclid=IwAR0-At10G6saRwYQvcx7Nrejh0BMQAWsjwItmTYcZx--vy0UyPtDmQRnlSw

QuoteA robotic arm trained to slide a block to a target position on a table achieves the goal by moving the table itself.

QuoteAgent pauses the game indefinitely to avoid losing

QuoteGenetic algorithms for image classification evolves timing attack to infer image labels based on hard drive storage location

thank you for your posting
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