Permaculture, a permanent sustainable culture

[rachel]

Hey y'all, let's talk about permaculture.

If you don't already know, here's some cool links on the topic:

• https://staging-wiki.wetfish.net/permaculture
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture

Anyway, for everyone else that already knows all about permaculture, check out this awesome DIY / small scale hydroelectric site that snek showed me. It's complete with plans and a lot of information about how to generate hydro power at home.




http://www.five-gallon-bucket-hydroelectric.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/FIve-Gallon-Bucket-Hydroelectric-Generator-Build-Manual-.pdf

[JuniperToxic]

I got bees I got bees I got bees

Tomorrow is a bee meeting!  After that I will buy my hive boxes and start building it out.

Proposed naming schema is SOURCE ALPHABET_NAME SEQUENCE or SOURCE ALPHABET_NAME YEAR ie

Package Alice 1
Nuc Ayria 1

P Alice 17
P Bailey 17

I might go with the year because the alphabetical sequence will indicate what number of the family they are.

[rachel]

I got bees I got bees I got bees

Tomorrow is a bee meeting!  After that I will buy my hive boxes and start building it out.

Nice! Can't wait to see pictures

[rachel]

Food preservation is just as important as food creation: http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2017/02/vietnams-low-tech-fermentation-food-system-takes-advantage-of-decay.html

[rachel]

Check out this awesome Hobbit house!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix11VQ8f7uY

(also dat booty)

[rachel]

I have a farming playlist on youtube with videos about agroforestry, vertical aquaponics, and all sorts of garden experiments!


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLtV3jb9k2tAZRA5xbMhi2QctL7Ujmvnz

[rachel]

Man!! I just got all these tubes and connectors from the homo depo but then I noticed a couple of them had STATE OF CALIFORNIA warnings on them, so I decided to look into the materials used by each company.



Turns out those porous soaker hose things are made from recycled car tire rubber, which often have some amount of heavy metals. I can't find any information on the specific material composition or if any tests have been done to measure the lead levels in the rubber or what happens to water that flows through it, especially in the hot summer sun. I suppose I could call the company, but part of me just wants to avoid it altogether.

The connectors are Acetal plastic, aka Polyoxymethylene which in some cases has been approved for use with food and is used in K'Nex, buttttt...... it reacts with mineral acids and chlorine found in common tap water leading to degradation over time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyoxymethylene#Degradation Planned obsolescence?

Fortunately the plain irrigation tubing is made from Low Density Polyethylene which is commonly used in food safe applications, but it "contains a minimum of 2% concentrated carbon black resin antioxidant" ... whatever that is. They say it helps prevent thermal damage in the sun.

I think I'm going to use the LDPE irrigation tubing I have now but replace the connectors with HDPE connectors from a local medical supply company.

[here cums the fuck truck]

permaculture is sexy and cool

ldpe and hdpe (low density poly ethylene, and high density) are the shit. hard as fuck to glue, tho.

if someone made an hdpe 3d printer, i'd take 3d printers seriously.

[rachel]

permaculture is sexy and cool

ldpe and hdpe (low density poly ethylene, and high density) are the shit. hard as fuck to glue, tho.

if someone made an hdpe 3d printer, i'd take 3d printers seriously.

The problem with HDPE is that it shrinks considerably while cooling and does not adhere to itself, making it pretty much impossible to use extrusion printing. Source: http://reprap.org/wiki/HDPE

It might be possible to 3d print HDPE parts using the same method as clay / metal printing where the material is powdered and mixed with a binder. A laser shoots the powder, making the glue binder melt, creating a fragile 3d object. After the print is finished you throw it in a kiln to melt everything together permanently.

Oh hey, actually it's already a thing if you have a state of the art machine: http://www.plastics.gl/processing-misc/new-hdpe-powder-for-the-laser-sintering-market/

[rachel]

That radical heron just posted this link on IRC - http://www.citypages.com/restaurants/a-plan-to-turn-hiawatha-golf-course-into-minneapolis-first-food-forest/416059773

Put simply, a food forest is a woodland that uses native trees, shrubs, and plants that are both edible and medicinal. The city would plant everything from raspberries and blackberries to maple trees and hazelnut trees, as well as shoreline plants like katniss (also known as duck potato) and medicinal herbs like echinacea.

Intended to be low-maintenance and self-maintaining once established, the plants are designed to not only build soil but to attract pollinators.

[Black T Cat]

putting the Perma in Cult since this guy https://skepteco.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/the-cult-of-perma/

do any permies here do numbers?

Permies just don?t do numbers
-Peter Harper The Big Rock Candy Mountain 2013

[kayimbo]

putting the Perma in Cult since this guy https://skepteco.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/the-cult-of-perma/

do any permies here do numbers?

Permies just don?t do numbers
-Peter Harper The Big Rock Candy Mountain 2013

That article would be way more helpful if they did the numbers and showed it to us, instead of quoting one guy who said he didn't care about the numbers.

Also, i don't know any thing about hydroponic growing but i think its all about aquaponics.   Red Claw Crayfish are an  ideal source of protein.

Breeds easily, with no larval stage development.
Potential for selective breeding; many wild population strains.
Tolerates high stocking densities.
Requires low protein diet, not reliant on fishmeal.
Market position as a high value crustacean.
Flesh texture and flavour compares favourably with other crustaceans.
Meat recovery rate acceptable.
Reaches commercial size in nine months grow-out.
Survives well out of water for transport to market.
Straightforward production technology.
Tolerant of variations in water quality - low dissolved oxygen, wide daily pH changes, low alkalinity, temperature variations, high nutrient loads.
Tolerates saline water up to 5 ? indefinitely and up to 15 ? for several days. This provides broad geographic potential and a means of enhancing flavour, purging and cleaning before sending to market.
No destructive burrowing.
Non aggressive ? cannibalism not regarded as an issue.

They like to live in kiddy pools:



Can anyone suggest a good fish to integrate with aquaponics?

once china kills all the fish in the world, the cornstone of nutrition is gonna be:
a) crayfish
b) algae
c) ... i dunno some sort of plants

[Black T Cat]

d) insects.

http://rmmr.co/index.php/about/

[kayimbo]

I'm very interested in insect farming!  The downside is crickets are still not really economical, its something like 40$ a lb for cricket flour.  Not cheap.

[what]

There is a permanent culture growing on my ballsack is that the same thing? It doesn't go away even after years of showers