take me down to spooky town [[ goth thread ]]

Started by rachel, December 18, 2019, 05:48:35 PM

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When I posted this to a mailing list, Gila replied: I took my thirteen year old and her BFF to the MCR show last August and they raided my old goth closet for clothes. The look on my kid's face when her friend said "hey your mom was kinda cool" -- priceless. She still raids my stuff now and then but makes sure to remind me that it's "ironic". Isn't it, though



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rachel

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It turns out fishnets actually keep you WARMER? Goths have been doing it right this whole time

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwtpDhS9gWE[/video]
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God I love goth chicks.  I know it's a meme and objectifying women dehumanizes all of us and substance is more important than style, etc, etc.  But god damn, look at this lady.
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Quote from: Diabolizer on November 23, 2024, 08:03:45 AM
God I love goth chicks.  I know it's a meme and objectifying women dehumanizes all of us and substance is more important than style, etc, etc.  But god damn, look at this lady.


How does one draw the line between appreciating someone for being pretty and objectification? I think it's fine to appreciate someone's beauty. If anything, constantly worrying about hypothetically offending someone is more dehumanizing than saying "girl pretty"
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Quote from: rachel on December 01, 2024, 05:50:04 AM
Quote from: Diabolizer on November 23, 2024, 08:03:45 AM
God I love goth chicks.  I know it's a meme and objectifying women dehumanizes all of us and substance is more important than style, etc, etc.  But god damn, look at this lady.


How does one draw the line between appreciating someone for being pretty and objectification? I think it's fine to appreciate someone's beauty. If anything, constantly worrying about hypothetically offending someone is more dehumanizing than saying "girl pretty"

That's a fair question.  My moral system is like the the mobius strip, trading right for wrong for right again.  In my view, every time we believe that we are doing good, we are always already equally participating in evil.  The belief that we are capable of any discernment between the two is a cruel joke, a lie we tell ourselves to wash our hands of atrocities committed in our stead.  When we celebrate a woman's beauty, we also commit sacrilege on her body, devouring her spirit into the ravenous mouth of capitalism.  Yes, I am moved by her, yet I understand that I am participating in a ritual of predation where in a woman's value is tacked to the superficial standards of our consumptive empire, that are shackles on her desire just to be.  I AM SO GOTH!
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